Wrong serial numbers

From a gun forum:
Just bought a P38 and the serial number is not correct. They combined the real serial number and the number from the mismatched barrel assembly and left off the letter suffix. This is the third handgun I have bought that had a mistake on the registration.

Suffering from a "registry glitch"

I also suffer from a registry 'glitch'. I inherited my dads guns so we transferred every gun registered to him to me and I took the lot of guns. Turns out he had 1 more registered to him that is now in my name but the gun doesn't exist.

It is a non-existent make with no serial # which I eventually figured out was because one of the rifles was registered twice, the second time being based off of some marking on the buttstock.

So I called the registry to explain the error and have it corrected.... NOPE. The registry doesn't make mistakes I am told.

If I want that gun removed from my name in the registry I must call the police and report it stolen. They will remove it only once I submit the police report. I explained that it is a crime to fraudulently report a crime to which they told me that is the only way they will remove the non-existent gun from my name.

Registered twice

Thankfully the end is near:

So when the long gun registry came out I had 2 shot guns and a .22 registerd. 2 years ago now I had them all confiscated for unsafe storage. The police ran the serial numbers and determined that they werent registered. But offered to release them 2 months later, only if I registered them right then and there. So again I got the paperwork in the mail. Well I was cleaning out the file cabinet today and found the originals from 2003... funny same serial numbers different registration numbers.

A reply;

I had to register a rifle twice as when i sent in the ifo the forst time, i never got the registration certificate, and when i enquired was told they never got the form, but i had made copies of the forms before I sent them in, so i guess what i sent got lost on a desk some where. also another rifle I registered, I got in the mail a letter and a number, this number I was to stamp, etch on the rifle. when I enquired again about this number I was told that there was no serial number to the rifle, but i told them there was and that i had copies of the paper work that I had sent in.

Now get this, I was told that one reson was that this type of rifle had been produced so many times that the serial numbers where repeating themselves, and thats what I had to put this number on the rifle, and LOL get this, i was also told that maybe the scanner did not pick up the information I had sent in. So I redid the paper work and got it registered with out having to put new numbers on the rifle.

Lost data, wrong serial number, harrassment by the SQ

I have had 2 issues with the registry.

1) called them up to setup a transfer. The firearm I wanted to sell was not listed. So a quick search with the lady on the phone found that
- I had 4 different owner accounts. Each had some error in name, address, phone numbers, ...
- 1 rifle I have was not on record, 3 rifles they had on record I did not own, 1 was registered with the wrong serial number (I sent all the paper work 3 times before they got it right)

2) that was before the long gun registry, I owned a 92FS. I first got it while I was in the army. Having a range on the base, and my home address was the base, they did not issue me a transport certificate (I did send all the paper work, THEY decided not to issue). Years later, I get called by the f***** SQ about those 2 years period where I had a handgun but no transport permit. I got such calls every 6-12 months for 3 years, at which point I sold the damn thing.

Just gotta love registries...

7 years to correct a serial number?

It took approx 7 yrs to correct a serial number error on my registration certificate. I purchased a 10/22 Sturm Ruger-non restricted, registered by Dealer and took it home with temp regs. 3 weeks later, received the official registration paperwork and by chance noticed incorrect serial number 1 yr later, attempted contacts CFC by phone over 2 months, busy signals xx no contact made, wrote 2 letters over a period of 2 yrs to advise them of their error. They completely ignored my attempts to follow the law. For 7 yrs, I could have been arrested for not having the correct registration for a firearm. I kept all copies of my letters and records of attempted phone calls in case something would happen. In total, 7yrs later, the correct registration papers were received. If registration is so important, why did they wait 7 yrs to have the correct serial number of a firearm? I guess it's not important.
John 10/2010

Fabrique Nationale does not make guns, claims CFC!

I just bought a Spanish Mauser short rifle from another member here. Mauswer 1893, refurbed into a 1916 civil guard rifle. Funny, but when i completed the transfer, the girl on the phone said "Ok, so it's a 98k?" No...it's not....
mwjones 10/2010

I've seen it first hand. A friend tried to register a 270 winchester. He gave them the S/N off the receiver and was told "that must be wrong, we already have that S/N on file for another rifle". He now has..or had the gold sticker with the "new" S/N.
wolfen 10960

Now, I have an example of why the registry is a joke.

I recently purchased a FN (Fabrique Nationale) SxS Shotgun through an add in the local Buy and Sell. The firearm was already registered and once we agreed on a price a transfer had to be made(The next morning of course, it was a Wednesday evening!).

He called to make the transfer and had problems right away. He told them the make of the rifle and the Firearms Officer told him straight out that Fabrique Nationale was not a Firearms manufacturer and he had better tell them what type of gun it really was or it would not be transferred!

Keep in mind this firearm was already registered!!
After 10 more minutes of arguing with the officer they finally said "Ohhh, it is an FN make then right? We have that manufacturer on our list" On their list?? So if it's not on their list you can't register it I guess....even if it is already registered?

Then they asked for a model number. There was no model number on the firearm and the existing registry card did not have model number either. I am not sure what they decided on for a model number but finally a transfer was made after some more arguing over the phone.

All this for a 12 Gauge SxS shotgun with 30" barrels! Hardly a threat to anyone in my opinion.

Thanks Firearms Registry for making our taxpayers dollars feel like they are well spent.

Is that a Pistol or a rifle in your pocket?

I have a rfle from the 60s with no serial number on it too. I asked them about it during the transfer, and the girl told me that it's common for guns to have the same serial number or no number. She told me that they would send em a sticked to put on it. It never came, and even if it did, i would not have put it on. Who wants to junk up their nice guns with gaudy stickers?
-- mwjones

I once registered a rifle to my name.... lady asked for serial number..... lady said.. ''Sir, that serial number belongs to a Smith& Wesson .38 revolver''...... I replied, ''is there only one dog named Fido ???''
-- simonyzer

I had a Pistol and a rifle both with the same serial number.. I got a reprint of my certificates at one point.. and found they have the same certificate number... One had the right make and the other had the right length for the rifle.I called asked how this was possible.... They said they would figure it out..
A couple weeks later I get two stickers with no explanation and when I call to find out what they are for they say it's so I can tell them apart...
I said I can tell them apart one of them is about 12 inches long and the other about 3 feet.. Another couple weeks go by and I get a couple new certificates...We find out that someone apparently used cut and paste.. I got the right certs eventually. I sold the rifle... Only took another 2 years to get the stickered certs cancelled..
-- bear.23

Paper Crimmanls

See this is exactly why we need to get rid of the non restricted registry; way too many screw ups. I've had trouble transferring 2 non restricted rifles, one I had for over a year before they called me and told me the registration was no good. I had a registration in my name with all the proper info but for some reason it was no good so I had to track down the seller after well over a year and redo everything and it still took several tries to get it right for them to issue a new cert. People don't understand the process half the time and it causes problems, misinformation and sometimes paper criminals.-----------

Upon checking my registration certificates, I noticed the Firearms Center had made a error on my rifle serial #, I hadn't noticed it for approx. 1 yr due to numbers (something like) 088-080 mixed up. I wrote the CFC a letter asking them to correct the registration, numerous phone calls (all busy signals), no progress. Waited a couple more months, wrote another letter (registered) with photocopies of my PAL, Certificates and original bill of sale. Finally recd the corrected certificate about 5 months later? If registration is that important, then why did it take them so long to correct a "criminal" matter?
-- Bush24

One rifle, two papers and 2 rifles same serial number

I have a situation where I have one long rifle and 2 registration #'s for it. When I first registered it they (cfc) put the wrong make on the registration, so I tired to have it change, well I got it change alright they (cfc) issued a new registration, so I have one rifle and 2 certificate's for it, I have tried but they (cfc) insist I must have 2 rifle's of differing make and the same serial number.

-- mosquito99

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I had a situation of 2 different rifles and same serial numbers.
It is frustrating trying to get them to grasp the concept that their system is wrong, and they are also.

-- jdman